And then we will have a discussion. We'll have actually the program multimedia work library and then we have a Musgrave. Got this? Yes, Tray Smu. And he's going to introduce himself where? Yeah. So, my name is Travis Smm, a senior scientist, Algae innovations. Today, I just want to give you an overview of our company and what we're doing, our capabilities. I'll be talking about how you're moving clammy from a lab organism into industry and dynam first off, what makes clammy attractive for industry? Normally you think about it as a model organism in the lab, not so much industry but like E's algae and E. Coli, it had a huge knowledge base and that you think is a good reason to use it. You have strain diversity transformation ability. Other things you've heard about, protein folding, mating, Some other things you might not be aware of is that it's fermentable. We have some clinical data I'll talk about in a minute. The cell wall has a benefit because it's not as robust as some other ones. Nutrition that I'll talk about. And then there's a lot of phytochemicals that other fermentable organisms just can't make. The way trichlogy came about was about ten years ago. It came out of Stephen Mayfield's lab at UCSD. The original point was to make therapeutic proteins in Flaming, and then we haven't delivered in a whole sale matrix. And this necessitated safety testing for the biomass in animals and humans along those lines to prove it was safe. You can't just say it's safe. You got to do a little bit more work than that, especially in industry. We went through, sorry, went through a whole bunch of lamia, did all this testing. We did get approved for grass in the United, in the United States, both by an independent conclusion and FDA. We have grass for clama now in China and Singapore, and we're working on that in Europe. And then we also have other strains that are either in the pipeline or already approved for the grass status. But beyond that, I just proving that it was safe. We also saw some benefits in mice, pigs and humans that actually showed a gut health benefit. And this was without the recombinant proteins that I was talking about before. This is another factor that led us to get away from the recombinant proteins and just focus on the whole cell biomass and how it could be used as a food. Today we have five departments. Starts with the strain development, which finds new strains and develops new strains. Process development, which takes those strains and screens them for fermentation ability. And then figures out the scale up. We have food science department that takes that biomass and creates new foods with it. And then sales marketing, which of course moves it to get to consumers. And then regulatory affairs which make sure everything is safe. Just an example. At the top of the strain development team, we started off in this case to get our Ta 114 strain. We started off with a green strain through a combination of UV uto genesis facts and mating. We came to this red strain. The red strain creates poppy nine above 5% of biomass. That's a biosynthesis before low chlorophyll. We do have independent conclusion of grass status on this and we think this is food, a media flavor, so it'll be exciting fluid green. But along those lines, getting an idea for a phenotype is just the beginning. We can't just get one strain with the phenotype we're looking for. We've got to do a little bit more than that, because we can't grow it, it's useless Industrially, we go through this long process, all the way down to fermentation, from flasks to fermentation, to make sure that we can grow it a scale just green. And the red strain, we have hundreds of strains now in our library. These all have a unique phenotype. And they've been screened for the ability to go into fermentation and produce at the levels we need. Normally, you think about clammy and algae and you're thinking about phototrophic growth. Why are we looking at fermentation? Well, actually not needing light is a huge benefit because it lets us get to those higher densities that you really need to get cost effective for industry. There's a lot of companies that try to do it in ponds and such and most of them that haven't made it today. It's also sterile, so you don't have to worry about contain, you do worry about contamination, but most of the time it's good, is really ideal for a food product. Then you also have tightly controlled parameters that really helps with the scale and the optimization of your growth. This is what our capacity At some examples we have over 600 m in house. Starts off with our amber system which are bank of 24 automated bioreactors That allows us to try a lot of growth conditions and stuff in AE fashion. And starts off with on our fermentation, we then go through a variety of different capacity up to 150 liters. And we've got some downstream options too. So this allows us to get everything on a small scale. That way we can scale up to what we're really need for industrial. With all that, we've really vastly improved the productivity of planning back in the day. Maybe get a couple of grams per liter. Recent reports have up to 25 g per liter. We can get up to over 150 g per liter in our fermenters. And what that has allowed us to with this red string say it didn't grow all that well. So we've optimized it all the way from flasks into small fermenters, big fermenters. And that's allowed us to then go to our CMO with optimized proven manufacturing protocol. And they've grown at 180,000 liters scale. And if we went full war with this, we could get up to 5,000 metric tons per year. And that's really the kind of scale you need to have a commodity food products that can be competitive in the market we're talking about. Food plant is also has a lot of benefits nutritionized. We can get the protein up to 50% It has all the amino acid, essentially amino acids. We have oils, and vitamins and minerals that we think made a good food product. And then I said we have a poscience department, they made a variety of foods with. This is alternative tuna that actually I'm not a vegetarian, but it was pretty good. If you put it in tuna salad, you really couldn't tell the difference. They've made a variety of drinks, meatballs, snacks and desserts and noodles and dumplings. And these aren't just taking these to show you investors and taking them to food shows to get people interested, But it's not just for demonstration. You actually have products on the market today. Hardy is our brand name for the biomass that we sell. You can scan the Qr code or go to Be Foods.com That's our food company. But you can see these products. We don't have them in storage yet, but they are available online. So you can just buy the plain algae powder if you want to put that into your own cooking at home, we have pasta, green pasta. And then our newest thing is these, these all pork dumplings. Like I said, I'm not a vegetarian, but they are really good. We've taken them and given out hundreds of them at different shows. Unfortunately, you couldn't bring them today, but you guys combine them, but they are really good. Everybody's really great feedback on them and people are really excited about them. That pretty much give you an overview of who we are. If you want to go to our website, you can look up more about the company. We also have some links that we recently featured on ACNN show about the future of food. One of our founders, Miller Tran, talked about how we fit into the food ecosystem. Last two things is our company came from academia. A lot of us spent a lot of time in academia. We've done collaborations of academia before. If you have any ideas that you think can work at scale or any strains that you think can work at scale, we'd love to hear about it and talk about how we could cloud rate. The other thing is we're hopefully expanding soon, so that means we'll probably be hiring tech early, but also maybe some scientists. So if you're looking to get into this industry and you want to stay with clammy, come talk to us. We are in San Diego. I know that's a rough thing. It's sunny all the time, but if I can survive there, anybody probably can, so it's not too bad. I'll take any questions for being ahead of time. Time. Thanks. Totally avoid strain. That's what we started off with. Like you said, it was all the recount thing, you know, with the food thing. And when we transitioned into that, you know, we had to do the regulatory in the United States, at least, I'm sure everywhere pretty complicated and the rules are not very well established. So that would just be another headache. We probably will get into that again soon. Probably when if we are expanding soon. So Yeah, you know, not right now. Enter the top mentioned you grow your algae in dark fermentation and one reason is to keep the south arrow. How would keep the south arrow and also Cln grow in? By doing that reduce the cost by making carbon. It's not the darkest, you haven't enclosed fermenters. That's what keeps the sterile. And do all this extra stuff to keep the fermentor sterile light. When you go really high densities, just stick a light in there. That light so far once you get to a certain density I worked at another algae before you're going in and ponds. And those ponds don't exist anymore with that company because it just doesn't make sense. I'm sure somebody eventually will make it work, but the landscape is littered with algae companies that tried to make that work. We're skipping that and moving ahead to getting products. And as technology gets out, I guess we'll look at everything. But right now we're doing everything with fermentation. Just taste different. I don't know, I really haven't tasted the powder. I've always, when they've asked, I've always said, I don't think my palate is delicate enough. I've tasted the foods that they make. And usually, usually it's in the middle of the afternoon when you need a snack. Anyway that the food scientists have something for us to test. As far as Takayasu, it tastes pretty close to get phototrophic growth. I don't know. We used to have caros spin down the whole part of ways you get so little biomass. So it'd be really hard to get enough to compare, I guess. Thank you. Question here. From microbiology engineering background, when we have this fermentation engineering on one of the biggest costs associated with downstream Pic and processing, that's actually where your money spent on that. Back to you consider put clay on demobilized printed structure. Then you can actually have a mixture of you can directly make this alba pasture. So Pompe question, I mean, I'm not I'm not the engineer, I'm just a molecular biologist. So maybe one of our engineers could talk about that a little bit more. I don't know. I mean, I think we've got it to a scale that we can grow it improvements beyond that. I guess that's not, that's beyond my paper maybe assumption we all have is that when we grow climbing, we don't reach high. We initi, high density, we have to life. And so how do you deal with that? What densities do you reach? So, like I said, 100, 150 g per liter, definitely over 100 is pretty easy, The fed and everything. That's not my permal per how many? Probably I would assume that'd be like 10101011. Why is it 2 g per liter? I think that that's about ten of the eight, so I'm guessing that would be 100 more than that. We don't usually bother counting cells. It's pretty, it's hard enough to get Libor or Lvds total match. But your high her 250 G, so often what happens when you by, a lot of it is oil. I imagine you can only get up to those densities if there's a substantial part of that way you're legally separate. I don't know, I wish we had higher oil. That would probably be good actually. But, you know, when we test the biomass, usually not. That was part of the physics. Question. Thank you. After you don't use, that's why you got stem. Like I said, I think there's a lot of benefits and there's things that you just can't do in East. And if you want something green, that's pretty hard to do in yeast, I guess. So There's a lot of other things, we're just scratching the surface also, you know the clinical data as has been used as an ingredient forever. I don't think they have the data that we have on that. I know it's in so many were Nessa also maybe pull scale but if you have that as a major people are going to, you say all people are like, thank my question to talk about transpose. Mobile can call, go, move. And so I'm going to go through three parts. One is rests. I'm going to introduce the transposable library. Then you're going to touch on two you can do with that. One is to look the economic distribution of revise centers and the other is to talk about active elements are I'm not really going to introduce transpose. You're on board with the fact that they're interesting and important. I'm going to start by introducing a really quick history of transposable discovery. The first elements we'll discover is actually actively transposing elements jumping into genes in lab strains including lever ten years ago now. And that's really the iceberg transposons, they're in the genome. And once we have a genome sequence, it's possible to mine that and find multi popular pets. Annotates, because clam is bio, genetically sophistic. Any plants that most people were studying at the time, actually a lot of those transposons turned out to be completely new. So a lot of new transposon biology come out of the clamped, this accommodated in direct base libraries. If you've ever set beta transposons and clams, it's probably where you've got them. This is 119 transposon families that have been manually generated. This was all done in the version three genome some time ago and we weren't really sure how complete this library was and I set out a ph data, try and answer that question, this one isn't transposable library. Essentially, we try and capture all of the repeats that are in the genome. And the key thing is we make consensus sequence. You have a repeat in molted multiple copies. You can combine the molts into one representative sequence based on how that sequence books, transposable elements are incredibly diverse. There are lots of different mechanistic ways to move yourself around the genome. We look at that transposed can actually classify it. This certainly does require managerationcause. Most times when you do this in a plant, someone has done that somehow organism and you can take that information to transfer the plant bonuses so far away. Really if you have to look at them as say many of these transposons end be completely new scientists, at least Just to give you an example, Tcr one was discussed 25 or more years ago as an act in the lab, is present in four copies. And just show you the terminal ends of these copies. These are different positions. The planing sequence, you can see the Ali, these four copies are completely identical. We can make a consensus sequence to capture that very easily. There's AG in the middle which show you, and it's ADNA transposon as these voted for Peg, GCTCC and so on. And you can also see that many transposons opposed duplications, there's actually baseplication on each side of these elements. You can take all of that information. Tcs, ADNA transposon, But no unusual type of DNA transposon. Now we can look at it, it's actually part of this unusual group that was only described a few years ago. I did this multiple element for group genome took about four months times the Hd do that. And this is the default is what we rely on, hasn't really been touched since late 2000, 2000, 8,009 And the updated library that I've produced here, the transposon biology group, Transposons hierarchically families with the actual transposing elements themselves and group. An example is the family is a superfamily and DNA transposed. This really expanded things. We've got more than twice as many families. Lots of more diversity. And the reason I never published this libraries because actually some of these you again, so I'm busy describing those in the Nolan plans and all sorts of things that narrowly found, in terms of the plan, you add up all the consensus sequences. But if you actually look at the total percent of the genome that is covered, only goes up at 50% total megabases, over 10% The red based library has a lot of the really high number transpose, but there's a lot of transposes that are low numbers, that aren't in that. You want to say, I haven't got the figure here for it, but it's not just basis in the genome. It's also genes. 1,000 Genes in the genome are encoded by transpose elements, many of them are expressed in version five of those were just in the next, you couldn't really distinguish them. In version six, we went through quite a lot of Tas, Tacos, transposable element genes. So you can separate the need to one way of visualizing that pig. This is called a transposable element landscape. You might have seen this pagare for human genome before, and basically the consensus sequence is capturing all of that information. For one transpose transpose element died 5 million years ago. Every copy of that was degraded, randilynplot. The distance divergence from the consensus sequence older the transposon, the more divergence still in the human genome. This is a shape because we have a lot of transposons in the Cmo, there's pretty much nothing there. If you see a transposon, it's probably recently active or still actually active in the species, and I'm not going to show it, But when you look at polymorphisms amongst field strains, we can see that most transposons in the reference genome are actually polymorphic amongst field strains. The other really amazing thing here is diversity, Pluto diversity of transposons, transposons and blue lines Ts familiar with? There are lots of exotic transposons and so yeah, based is incomplete and so we need transposons you can get from this is a supplementary file in version six genome paper. I'll hopefully publish it one way and coming T's are incredibly heads and almost all of these T's probably exhibit evidence of recent activity, and that's probably because Olds just last in the genome. They just get pushed by selection. Very. Okay, So I just have one slide on section two and I've lost the title. That's the pa, specular hopefully makes up. And so this is just a subset of prosogenomic distribution of repeats, repeats gray, and they all start on top of each other. Most S are in blue. Then what I want to point out here is the green element here. Generally, there are contents not that high throughout the chromosome, but there are particular reaches of the chromosome and usually one cluster is very obvious chromosome and it turns out it's probably centre. This had been matched slightly before through and the notice that there were these reverses s when we put this library on top of it became very obvious that it's just one particular family that is completely enriched and it's not found anywhere else. And there was a poster yesterday which did find sentarme, which is very nice. Point out that these accolate along with subdues, that's for black squiggles. To summarize that, a very quick part, two, I didn't show it there but transposons finds genic reaches most trans genome but actually transect transposons centres, a limited part of genome but colder the transposon is found in there. In particular it's this one line and what I didn't mention there is this element is actually homologous to centric alba is 800 million years away. So this underground is something interesting, involves cents. That's an interesting question that we don't know. Okay, so final couple of minutes, active transposes in the last I really over simplifying phase. But what we can do now, we have a lot of genome that many of the sec, genome specific laboratory strains. We also have a lot of luminate data. I'm sure you're aware the laboratory strains are interrelated then in the last 75 years. But we can now call mutations by comparing the genomes, comparing the illuminate data, and we can find the right variants that we can call the mutations. And if the transposes call those active elements. This is all well and good. However, We have no idea what the generation number is, We have no idea how people put these. It's interesting that people in the group this room transposes on that. Please, with that. So we did an experiment at the end of my Phd where we grew to field estimates for 100 generations. And then we resequence line of bio and that gives us an altimeters transpose onto moving around. Okay. So, I'm going to just briefly go through some results from the Tory strains. And so we can find those early observations that describe transposes. We're up to 60 transposons that we've seen in the last strains. And that list you can find in source most of these families we found only actually inserting once or twice in one or two strains that we looked at. So they're active but they're probably not transposable that much. Others like RC one, we found inserting plenty of times in most strains. So there are some that are actually more consistently active. What I think is more interesting is occasionally in this one particular example, we found one active transpose CLC that had never been described as active before. In some strains it's just explicitly active, but in those strains silent. We found this in CC 4532 genome sequence and it caused more than 80 insertions. And that in more than a negabasicseequence is quite a big element as 16 Vsat to accumulate shot is really interesting analysis where it looks in other strains with illuminate data to try and find this transposable element jumping. We've found it in CC 4532, but it actually turns out there are lots of insertions, some of which shared. And you can use that information complex to look at, but you can use that information and you can apply it onto a strain history, can see that as strains that we moved around. When you see this G seven A, this is a case where we actually found that this transpose become active and then we can count up a number of decisions. It's become active several different times. Cc one to 583 of these decisions. When she does our CC one to five you might have ACC 15 that was never activated yet. This is happened lab just very, very quickly. We also look to the field strains. Experiment graphic lines, a couple of very points, all different transposons. Again, we have some that are active low rates and some that are really, really highly active. Interestingly, the other one, we already have four replicates, but there's only one active transport in this line. There's a huge amount of variation also in this line. These two elements cause a lot of rearrangements. So I'm not going to go to the mechanism here, but it's lucky that this isn't a labs strain because these Gomes straggle just a few under generations. Yeah, just to summarize again the real key thing here, all Btr carry some Ud insertions and yeah, there's a lot of variability substrates have some active ones and labs strains are completely at the set fields. Thank you very much. We ask when one of those, early on CR one was isolated, came from a chlorate screen where cells were killed to get mutes and nitrated chlorate. And 44 we looked at and 40 of them were caused trips. So do you see a correlation between stress like and chlorate and movement? I haven't looked but I would love to. Yeah, I think there is so much greater data. Yeah, city active but a lot more expressed. I think you want all these things to do. T stress are cases looked differences in expression. But yeah, so you show first pens which is to apply stresses. You see what happens. And I think, yeah, absolutely and that's the last stresses that, that's maybe why sometimes activate. But yeah, in the experiment that was also complete fairly nice conditions to get a baseline. But it's definitely what we would expect. Results from models show that it is stressful. Said transposons, paratactic speak in the moment. Okay, Can applicants pathogen, if you actually put them to call, they tend to actually be significantly. So my question is, do you, do you think that bet as thousand thousand conditions is quick? Move back to those questions like the stress conditions did you treat, what's the ideas think? I don't to be honest. Yeah, I think that would have come out of the experimental work and I just don't think, you know, I mean, we don't see rearranges. The last rains part less than unusual. Particularly restrain even the ancestors rearrange which might have happened and allow might have happened. But that's particularly, you see the insertions. The combination graphs. So yeah, we're lucky that's GI want to concur with P. At one point we were doing screens, Muts that were resistant to metalness to get things that trip biosynthesis and we put them in 38 degrees and everything that we thought actually had an insertion in. The other thing that might be interesting is CT 125 has blocks lysis and it could be related also to all of the insertions that you're seeing in that strain. Yeah, No, I think that's Yeah, right grounds. But there's so many motivations that I think we should ask. I didn't have a question Requested University of Maryland Public Work. We did a transcript analysis a few years ago. Several eight different cell conditions with related to sexual reproduction. And we found several transcripts, I can't remember which ones they were, that were dramatically up regulated when games are mixed together and undergo psychic amp increase. We just add Epic MP. And I forgot, I just hadn't thought about that data very much, but it seemed that there were a lot of trans, several transcripts that were dramatically upregulated during the A process. And then a little bit of reading on that. I found that that's true in other organisms too. Do you have any comments, thoughts about that? Yeah, yeah, it to jump from verification because that's how they make themselves, because they jump from somewhere else. Miles. Yeah, I need to think about it. Video, It could be a foot out mode, but this is before miles. This is well before that. Okay. Mas salvation system. But actually not even that. It's after they've been nitrogen star then they're activated P. So it's a particular circumstance during the lifetime. Okay. Another excites but so Utica, he accepted to give a 15 min token fitness right now. So I ask you to present the library because 40 very important. I think you'll realize the lungs and, and the multi. Okay. Can everybody hear me? Yes. Right? So my goal, my goal is to just give you a very brief update of the Tut library. Many of you are familiar with this library. This is a picture of some of the mutants in this library. In each of these colonies, a different gene is disrupted and the identity of the gene is known. The mutants are distributed by the resource center and they can be searched on a website. I wanted to first really point out that the clip library is the fruit of a team effort. Because of the time, I won't have time to go through all the names, but really it's been led by a number of postdocs in the lab and outstanding from Veronica Pta. The project was originally started by Roja and then led by Hables, currently led by Alice Vardon, the current team on the project. We have two technicians, Pacini, Julia Zubac and Michelle Ward. Williams is our lab manager who's also contributing heavily. And it's been a close collaboration with Arthur Grossman, who is our neighbor at Carnegie where we started the project. As well as the Mi Resource Center which has pele and serling silo and clad and a number of very dedicated technicians and made the project possible over the years. I want to briefly say that we're very grateful to the community for your interest in the project, in your support of the project, and your use of these mutants. I didn't have time to update this slide, but there's been a steady demand over the years for mutants. And from what I understand from Pete, there's over 6,500 mutants that have been distributed to over 200 laboratories so far. I'm going to skip some slides to stick to five minute limit here. Right? Okay. So the resource has been great, but We've been very aware of a number of limitations. And one of the limitations has been that that there is not sufficient coverage of many genes. And in many cases, there's only one allele available for many genes. Which makes it challenging if you want to really establish confidently a relationship between a gene and the associated phenotype. So we are in the progress process and thanks to the support of the community, we are in the process of expanding the Cent Library. So this is kind a representation of the existing library in terms of the percentage of all genes genome that are covered with 95% confidence insurgents in five Trs, introns and exons, which are the feature types that ten disrupt gene function. And you can see that there's only about 90% of genes that are represented by three or more alleles. Which in our experience is what you need to establish a high confidence genotype relationship. And fewer than 50% are represented by just one or more high confidence. Our goal is to just expand this possible to make the resource more valuable to the community. And we give you, I want to very briefly introduce what we're doing in this particular expansion. One thing that you should be aware of it that the new mutants are being generated in a different background strain and with a different selection marker. The idea is to make the resource valuable in ways that it wasn't before. And also to the new mutants capable of crossing with the previously existing mutant very easily. This is a little bit about the new background strain. With advice from Pete, we have selected the Whitman and G one background strain. This is also being sensitive to the flagella Celia basal bodies side of the community pipe. Plus it crosses well with mutants from the existing library which are mating. Pipe minus it is one. It is age. It has strong negative phototaxis as vigorous swimming. Normal ultrastructure as far as we can tell has phototrophic growth that's comparable to our existing strain. And I won't go into all the details, but we're in the process of making mutants in the library. In this background strain we have a collection so far of about 222,000 colonies, and we're pretty far along the way to actually having all the insertions. We've collected all the high throughput data and we're in the process of analyzing it. It's our expectation that we hope to deliver to the community. We hope that you will be able to order strains from this resource. And within the next year, let's see, 14, 15. And you should be able to, you're all warmly invited to come and visit the Labra, see the resource. Right. And so, yeah, we hope to have it available in the next year. And then additionally, we'll be phenotyping the new mutants in the presence of small molecules. So if you have a particular small molecule that you're interested in and you would be interested in knowing which mutants or which genes, when mutated confer sensitivity or enhanced growth in the presence of the small molecule. Please let us know. We'd be very happy to collaborate with you. Finally, here's our summary slide. Mutants can be searched on the Camut.org and Phase websites. Many mutant phenotypes are already available under many growth conditions. Also on the Clmulatarytorgbsite, we're expanding the library using a new strain and much better mapping, which we hope will greatly increase the coverage of high confidence destruction alleles. And we'll be phenotyping mutants in the next year. We're happy to collaborate on the chemical of interest. That's it. Monition I think. Yes, we question over there on the way happen after that, is that I mean were always. But I would stay here and a couple of people stay here to discuss the community resources. We thank you so much for you mentioned you mentioned more matter. Yes, absolutely. Right. So this is going to get a little bit technical, but basically the insurgions, clammy nutrients are quite messy. Right? And so these either cassettes that have unique DNA barcodes in them and very often what we observe is one end of the cassette is truncated. And then additionally, another challenge that we have is that we see next to our insurgents, we have jumped DNA which is genomic DNA. What we think it's genomic DNA from liced cells that got electrocard into the cell along with the cassette. And so if we sequence out of the cassette, don't sequence far enough, we're sequencing climate, genomic sequence. And we might be mistaken to think that the whole cassette is inside this orange region of the genome. But in fact, the entire thing is in the blue region of the genome. This has been a major challenge for us. One of the reasons why the current library, we don't have very high confidence in many of the Ut incursion mapping site. The previous mapping approach was done by using an aluminum paired end sequencing based approach. We amplified subsequence between the cassette, including this unique barcode out as far as we could go. And then we did paradox sequencing to get the barcode sequence and the Frank genomic sequence. But this was limited because we can only go up to our average about 500 bases and the most extreme case about one K. But still there were some jump fragments that were longer than that. Sometimes you get several jump fragments and sequence The new approach. This is been pioneered by Alexa leading the project. We're now able to generate much longer fragments. The medium size is 2.5 KB, but they rather there are six KB and we sequence that by pack bio. This is very powerful because not only are we going farther, but we actually know the full order in which the sequences are. So if you have multiple junk fragments, we know what the sequences that's furthest away from the cassette and is therefore most likely to be the insertion site. And additionally, we're able to sequence backwards in the opposite direction of the cassette. And then we're able to compare the genomic sequences that we get on both sides to provide very high confidence that we have the insertion site accurately as you mentioned. So I think we can start the discussion now. I have few slides were. Yeah, let's give.